muzzle loader question

[mycar47562]

i just got the .50 cal and now im wondering if i can load .50 bmg bullets?

[Oriondk]

Hmmmmm, not sure, but I don't think it would be a good idea. Some of the more experienced guys need to answer this one.

[StrawHat]

I doubt the projectile for the 50 BMG would fit down the bore of a ML.

Even if it did, it is boat tailed so it would not expand to seal the bore and grab the rifling. I guess if it was small enough, you could paper patch it up to just over bore size and get it somewhere near your target but weight and poor gas seal are going to limit velocity.

But then again, I have never tried or even thought about it from my rifles so the only way to really find out would be to try it.

What do those bullets weigh? Much of the recoil from blackpowder is from the projectile. I am not a mamber of "the more the merrier" club!

[OFallon]

Don't do it. A jacketed bullet can easily dam the bore. That's a major blow up. By the way, I shoot a Dublin Model Bess in .72, paper-rolled cartridges.

[mycar47562]

650-800 grains


what's so diffent about barrell's between muzzle loaders and other rifles?

would it matter that mine is a magnum? is magnum is a muzzle loaders name just for show?

[Oriondk]

650-800 grains


what's so diffent about barrell's between muzzle loaders and other rifles?

would it matter that mine is a magnum? is magnum is a muzzle loaders name just for show?

What rifle did you get and did you get an owner's manual with it? 650-800 grns seems heavy and you may not even get enough velocity to stabalize it well. Of course, I could be wrong about that.:rolleyes:

[mycar47562]

Cva buckhorn i couldn't find how much powder they put behind the bmg to tell if it could even work but im interested in what ofallon said in that jacketed bullets wont work.

Id amagine that if they did it would already be out there but who knows

[rjrivero]

What you have is an IN LINE muzzle loader. These are the new gold standard of modern muzzle loaders. They're built to use the .45 caliber sabot rounds. There is no need to try to stuff them with monster bullets, and you won't be happy with the performance.

This is the projectile I would use out of a similar design gun, but that's just me.

Link here (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=278052).

[mycar47562]

What to you mean .45 sabot rounds? It's a .50 caliber. I am truely lost on muzzle loaders when i got to buy the stuff im gonna have to get somebody to help me as all i know i need is 208 primers bullets black powder and the paper stuffer stuff

[mycar47562]

Do you know if muzzle loader barrel's taper in at all? Im very interested in finding out about this bmg thing i know yall don't think it will work and it probally wont but id like to try it

[mycar47562]

From what im seeing i could load the 150 grains that the manufacter say and still be about 50 grains short

[mycar47562]

One last thing from what i have seen with black powder it is very clumpy would mashing it into a finer powder help the over all burn?

[mycar47562]

The more i research the more i think im in over my head right now. I just thought powder was powder i guess ill have a lot of studying to do

[rjrivero]

What to you mean .45 sabot rounds? It's a .50 caliber. I am truely lost on muzzle loaders when i got to buy the stuff im gonna have to get somebody to help me as all i know i need is 208 primers bullets black powder and the paper stuffer stuff

The bullet is .45 caliber. It sits in a "sabot" or "shoe" that captures the gas, and pushes the bullet out of the barrel. The Sabot opens up once out of the barrel, and the bullet continues on it's line to the target. (Much like the WAD in a shotgun shell.) It turns out that this sabot style bullet provides VERY good accuracy, and VERY good velocity. It is the HOT setup for modern muzzle loaders.

The black powder that is favored for these in-line muzzle loaders comes in pellets. The pellets are more convenient. These Muzzle loaders often times use 209 primers, which are shotgun primers for ignition.

MAKE SURE THE POWDER IS CORRECT, or you'll be looking at ka boom.

[mycar47562]

so which powder should i use?

[rjrivero]

so which powder should i use?

Far be it from me to tell you what to use, but Pyrodex Pellets (link here (http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_35462?cmCat=CROSSSELL_PRODUCT&cmid=PP_P1_2)) and the Hogdon Sabot are the combination I shoot. Simple, clean, and DEAD NUTZ ON for Muzzle Loader Deer Season.

[mycar47562]

Thanks

[eldiablo]

in my CVA optima elite i shoot 150 grains of pyrodex 50/50 pellets(3 50 grain pellets) and a 270 grain Powerbelt bullet lit up with a winchester triple 7 209 primer.
You have to make sure your barrel is designed for a "magnum" load, you may have to use 100 grains or so.

[eldiablo]

Here's my stuff, oh and have fun cleaning!

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[rjrivero]

Here's my stuff, oh and have fun cleaning!

You're not supposed to turn him off to Muzzys so quick!

[eldiablo]

You're not supposed to turn him off to Muzzys so quick!

he needs to be prepared:D

[mycar47562]

yea i went and talked to a guy about it and looks like ill need about 70 dollars worth of stuff to start shooting so ah yea this gun will be gone when ever i get the chance