Franky at the range

[Max]

Took Franky to the range for the second time. Only shot at the 100 yard mark for the fun of it. No I can't account for all the rounds I shot but still not bad with a home pieced together old N frame.

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[rjrivero]

Nicely done, Max.

[Remphoto]

That perp is dead. Good shooting!

[Max]

I guess I just never thought about the range of a pistol. Never considered it a worthy weapon for any distance. I guess it even surprises me how accurate the .357 is. I knew what I was going to do but should have taken some 38 special to see if it started to drop at that range, the .357 shows no drop at 100 yards even out of the short barrel.

[right$pecial]

100yards? Not bad at all for any handgun really.

[StrawHat]

Max, if you were to shoot just six at 100 yards each time you went to the range, the groups would start to shrink.

Ed McGivern said that after the introduction of the 357 he would feel comfortable engaging a rifleman at something like 500 yards and getting a first shot hit before the rifleman. Having read his book and some comments by his contempories, I believe him.

I have done some 100 yard work but mostly with the 45 Long Colt. I just like the larger holes it makes in the target.

[mycar47562]

That is some crazy distance my range wouldn't even let me take my handgun's to the 50 yard range

[rjrivero]

Max, if you were to shoot just six at 100 yards each time you went to the range, the groups would start to shrink.

Ed McGivern said that after the introduction of the 357 he would feel comfortable engaging a rifleman at something like 500 yards and getting a first shot hit before the rifleman. Having read his book and some comments by his contempories, I believe him.

I have done some 100 yard work but mostly with the 45 Long Colt. I just like the larger holes it makes in the target.

Our range has one day a month where we can shoot our pistols at 200 yards. It's usually a thompson center single fire fest, but my Anaconda and I have taken them to the limit on more than one occasion. :thumb:

[Max]

At my local range they have no problem with pistols on the rifle range. In fact if you want to sand bag one and fire it they don't allow that on the pistol range. All you have to do is tell them when you check in which range your going to be on. They allow rifles that fire pistol cartridges on the pistol range so if you want to shoot a 22 or 45 acp rifle that isn't a problem either.

[Dframe]

My club allows nearly anything within reason. I've occasionally shot pistols at 100 yards to good effect. I have NO doubt McGivern could do everything he said. I have knocked steel plates down at 50 yards with a Detective Special in front of stunned witnesses. NO, certainly not EVERY time but enough to make believers out of some people.
Nice job on Franky!

[mycar47562]

hell i shot the 45-70 at 7 feet but never a handgun past 25 yards lol

[Hammerdown]

I guess I just never thought about the range of a pistol. Never considered it a worthy weapon for any distance. I guess it even surprises me how accurate the .357 is. I knew what I was going to do but should have taken some 38 special to see if it started to drop at that range, the .357 shows no drop at 100 yards even out of the short barrel.




Hello Max
Fine shooting there, although it does not surprise me.:) Back in Late 1934 Joe Wesson was Building the Registered Magnum handgun. He contacted Remington Arms and asked them to Build the ammo for it. He was quickly told by Remington Arms that at a Velocity of 1515 FPS the Then experimental .357 Magnum could Not be accurate and the shooting World did not need such a Fierce recoiling Cartridge of that kind to begin with. :mad: Wesson not known to give up easy, then called upon Winchester Western Arms and asked them to build the Cartridge and bullet for this caliber





Winchester designed a special Bullet with a shoulder design first experimented with and Built by Famed Wild cat Re-loader Philip Sharp. Phil Sharp was Instrumental in the expansion of the .38 Special Cartridge to what we now know to be the .357 magnum of today and Built his experimental rounds 1/8" of an inch Longer than the .38 Special to keep Guys from inserting a .357 Magnum in a Gun chambered for the .38 Special. Winchester then took his Idea and Built the .357 Magnum Cartridge making it 1/8" Longer than a standard .38 Special Case and approved Sharp's Idea for Public sale in the then New S&W Registered Magnum..




Elmer Keith also had a Piece in this experimental .357 Magnum cartridge, but Elmer had expanded on the .38 Special Cartridge to be fired in the then Heavy frame S&W 38-44 Revolver called the Outdoorsman. These cartridges were called "Super Velocity" and were intended to be used only in the Outdoorsman revolver due to their Higher Pressure and and Velocity which was 1060 FPS & the ammo Box's were marked with a warning telling Consumers to only use that ammo in the S&W 38-44 Outdoorsman model revolver. :)






Keith and Sharpe got together on the bullet design and Sharpe then experimented with Keith's bullets in the .357 Magnum Cartridges and passed on his findings to Joe Wesson who sold his Idea to Winchester and the rest was History as we say it. Remington Arms ended up sucking Hind Tit on this new cartridge and they were not called on again for any experimental Cartridges from S&W until late 1954 when they designed and Built the famous .44 Magnum round. By that time, they Listened a little Closer to what S&W had an idea for as well...:D So, That Concludes your History Lesson today on the Famous .357 magnum and it's Birth..:D Hammerdown

[mycar47562]

Never short on info are you? Always great to read how stuff like this came about

[Dframe]

Thanks for the history lesson hammer. I knew the general story but didn't know the info about how remington blew it.